RAND PAUL NEWS INTERVIEW - INVADING IRAQ - GOOD OR BAD IDEA

 

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and welcome back moments ago we talked about jeb Bush's

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challenging week joining me now is why the chief rivals for the Republican

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presidential nomination Senator Rand Paul of Kentucky

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by the way it's brand new book coming out taking a stand

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moving beyond partisan politics to unite America will be released in just over a

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week we got an exclusive first look at it

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and we'll be talking with the senator about a welcome back to meet the press

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ENTER Paul

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pressure thanks from me

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let me start with the issue that brought up by governor is essentially by some

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here with governor bush this week and it's the war in Iraq

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are you satisfied after governor bush is sorta fourth

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answer on this saying he wouldn't have gone into the war in Iraq knowing what

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we know now

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are you satisfied now that governor bush won't be taking us back to the bush

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foreign policy you had said that that was an important litmus test for

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and well I think it's an important question and I don't think it's a

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historical act

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anecdote I don't think it said something that's a hypothetical question

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I think it's a recurring question at least is it a good idea

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to topple secular dictators and what happens when we do

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I think when Hussein was toppled we got chaos we still want chaos in our

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in Iraq I think emboldened Iran

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I think we now have the rise a radical Islam in Iraq as well

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but I think the same question to be fair I V ask hillary Clinton

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if she ever takes questions they should ask our

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was it a good idea to invade Libya did that make us less safe did it make it

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more chaotic did allow radical Islam a nice is to grow stronger

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so I think the war in Iraq is a good question and still occurring question

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but show was the question should we have gone into Libya you know

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Senator Marco Rubio in being asked the same question about iraq

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Davis answer he says President so have the benefit of hindsight

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and the fact of the matter is the world is a better place cuz saddam hussein is

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not around

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your short implying that you disagree with that

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you believe the world would be a better place if saddam hussein we're still the

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strongman in Iraq

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I don't think that's exactly how I put it but I would say

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that I think said we are more at risk for attack from people who are training

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organizing infighting in Iraq than we were before

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so for example I sis is a more of an aberration and even Hussein was

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so you have this radical brand Ji hye this radical brand of Islam

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that is now strong and growing stronger because

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for the failed state that iraq is you the same thing going on in Libya

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so this is a valid debate more apt at this debate now in the republican

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primary but in general

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as to whether or not a good idea is intervention always a good idea or

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sometimes does it lead to unintended consequences

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you know you lay down in your book very clearly your foreign policy basically a

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piece for string foreign policy

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essentially saying you know I intervention and

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making a strong case against intervention that intervention over the

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years is only serve to create more problems

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then it was designed to stop but i guess i me ask you this if

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would you consider going after a country that was

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trying to put together a nuclear weapons program

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right that was the reason to go in Iraq his heart surgery which was concerned

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and that is the reason some people say we might have to

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have that military option on the table with Iran

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is a viable reason to go to war to prevent

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a nother country from starting a nuclear weapons program

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I think that we always have to end the threat of military force

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behind to bomb a sec but I would prefer diplomacy I think we can still have

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negotiations

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and the thing is is that we negotiate with the soviets for seventy years

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and we ended up coming to a peaceful outcome I think with Iran we need to be

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steady and firm

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they cannot have a nuclear weapons program breast with threaded military

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force

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for my hope is really that negotiations continue

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there are some in my party you say oh I don't want any negotiations are a to be

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done with it

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but once you're done with negotiations the choices are more

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or they get a weapon and I don't wanna have just those two binary choices

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you know your some pie in your book as a fascinating quote in your connecting

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Libya

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in Iran and you say yes the problem is we've already sent the wrong message

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the last time a leader gave up his desire for weapons of mass destruction

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we bombed his country and took them out you're referring to qaddafi

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who gave up nuclear ambitions and then two years later in a different

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administration Obama administration

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they ended up taking about you're implying that the Iranians

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shouldn't trust the united states. in these negotiations are you not I think

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it's more criticism of hillary Clinton

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because I think she should have thought through the repercussions

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the invasion and toppling up qaddafi because hillary clinton made the

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decision to do this with President Obama's a sad

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what you end up having is is that now it does send a signal

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to Iran and it makes them question whether or not we will honestly be a

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good broker a good negotiator with

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eliminating nuclear weapons because qaddafi did give up his nuclear emission

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and was toppled anyway so it's in is an argument for not doing what we did in

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Libya

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let me move to the Patriot Act we have reauthorization is coming up for john

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persons unclear whether it's going to get reauthorized at all

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before you guys going on Memorial Day recess senator mcconnell talking about a

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two-month extension I know you want a filibuster

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any Patriot Act extension would you even support a two-month extension

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on the court has ruled that the ball should evolve our home wreckers

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all the time is illegal to really a nonstop if the president's obeying the

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law he should stop immediately we should be doing this

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I don't want to replace it with another system I really think that we should get

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along with the Constitution just fine we did for over 200 years

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you can catch terrorists judges will grab warrants

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in fact if you look at the history of our country judges are actually very

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much

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is not a difficult left to get a warrant from most activities you want to be

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investigated

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but the warship someone's name on it shin Se horizon

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and we should collect all the customers arise and that's a general warrant

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and that's one of the things we fought a revolution moreover is that we wanted

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individualized warrants

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you know you're so critical in the NSA in your book I have to ask

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would you eliminated if you're president no I would actually

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keep the NSA evacuee I would have the NSA target their activities more more

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towards our enemies

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I think if you're not spending so much time and money collecting

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the information I've innocent Americans maybe we could spend more time knowing

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that wants an arts

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Sargsyan are boys won the Boston bombers

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had gone back to chechnya we didn't know that even though

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we've been tipped off by the russians weird communicated interviewed him

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and still didn't know that same with the recent %ah

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geologist from Phoenix travel to Texas shooting in Garland

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we knew him we have investigated him we put him in jail

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I would spend more time on people we have suspicion of

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and we have probable cause I'll and less time on innocent Americans a distraction

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us

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from the job getting terrace I let me know with one last question here and it

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goes into the idea that in your book perhaps the most intriguing idea act

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about reading your book and that is this if you use a few find the best teachers

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on a subject

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perhaps in the country that the ideas we should have smaller classrooms.

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we should have a classroom perhaps other million students meeting

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the best calculus teacher oddity

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Kilis to anybody who wants to learn calculus in america and that

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the the teacher on the ground implements the curriculum it's an intriguing idea

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but two pages later you say

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there should be a national curriculum how is that not in contradiction with

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being

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against common core but for like nationalize teaching like

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what you describe what I'm talking about is something truly extraordinary

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want to the big leagues for for america was when we started becoming a

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meritocracy

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and everybody was open for education there's still some people in america

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a particular in other countries that are trapped in poverty in don't have access

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when the Internet expanses access and someone and then

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the recesses on the John Wall can

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learn from them best calculus teacher on the planet

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we're going to discover genius that's going to allow progress in mankind to

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improve any

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enemies can be a huge leap for technological progress

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but is by having larger classrooms is counter-intuitive not smaller

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and they will be virtual classrooms and there will be extraordinarily cheap

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but I'm not saying this comes from government I think this comes really

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more not more than likely

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from the innovators that you need in Silicon Valley and the innovators you

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meet in Austin Texas

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i think thats was gonna come from not from government exactly local control

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well I'm not advocating against %ah

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something that is transmitted even worldwide

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international I'm not arguing against any high Nova

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National Communication Riva national testing I took national tests when I was

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a kid

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but I'm arguing is again centralize control

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in the body and one government I'm arguing for something where

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someone in Madagascar are who's a genius whose industry

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living in poverty and we never discover that genius

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is going to be connected to someone at Harvard or MIT here

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Baylor some great universe

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City and they're all the sudden going to you I have that knowledge awaken

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something in their mind that we haven't seen

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that's the real beauty the Internet we are quite there yet

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but people have misconstrued at intelligence is gonna come from

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smartphones

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is gonna come from connecting intelligent people too intelligent

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people

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and great teachers to the masses I think there's extra

 

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