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senator good to see you today so what do you think the jeb bush
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interview well Megan it's great to be with you it's always great to join you
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you don't look I'm a fan to get bush I I'll give them credit
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for candor and consistency he is running based on his views his views are
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different from that of a lot a Republican primary voters
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but he's honest about it and and I think we're gonna have
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a clear straight up debate about what what's the right direction for the
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republican party to go and what's the right direction for the country
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what about that because it
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in looking at at the records mostly can attend little mitts that they can't be
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you know position changes you actually don't have many
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a and I'll say that's a look at your record very closely and
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jeb bush doesn't because he stands by you know even the most controversial
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do you believe he deserves credit for that so I i think it is important for
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someone to stand by what they believe then and you know what I've tried to do
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in the senate has been real simple it's been tell the truth
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and do what I said I would do if I'm with P I'm really with your
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and if I'm not with the I'm really not with ya and I think people respect that
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obviously we spent a lot of time on immigration in common core which are the
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two big issues probably for him
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on as he acknowledges with some in the GOP base
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on this subject immigration which you've been passionate about yourself
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what he said to me was I i pressing for example on what you know when you were
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governor of Florida you supported in-state tuition tuition rates
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for the children of illegal immigrants and he said look what do you do with a
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who happens to be here illegally thanks to his parents who was valedictorian of
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and can't go to college without that rate you gonna say no
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and the way he brought it to me was there's a point at which we r
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over the line you have to show those kids some respect
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what's your answer to that well you know there are a lot of a lotta candidates in
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the 2016 field who have supported amnesty are all gone back and forth on
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the issue not my position has been consistent and clear I think amnesties
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but besides you unfair this is I don't think it's a benefit for an illegal
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child which so it's maybe a little less controversial than amnesty but it's so
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well but if you grant in-state tuition to
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to students who are here illegally that that comes at the expense
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American citizens are it comes at the expense
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all the legal immigrants who follow the rules to come here you know you know
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there's there's a finite number of slots
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and a finite number dot dollars in you often the people that get left behind
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this immigration debate
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are legal immigrants are P
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my dad who in 1957 fled kill they came on a student visa
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came here legally and a and I think most american people outside a Washington
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agree that we need to secure the borders we need to stop
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illegal immigration and he's wrong he says that you
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and and but that amnesties wrong and and this is where
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I'm you know i i disagree with the many 2016 candidates who have embraced a
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pathway to citizenship
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Common Core he's gonna stand on that and defend that as raising American Standard
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in education you see it a bit differently I do I believe we should
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every single word of Common Core and and the reason is simple I think education
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is far too important for it to be governed by an elected bureaucrats in
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washington it should be
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at the state level editor at the local but it is the response to that is that
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it is the kit that governors got together to push this through
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but but Megan that's not how it works the Obama administration had use Race to
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the Top money federal money
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to force states to adopt common core standards at all
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out if they don't want to be a part of it well well sure they can but there
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there are a lot of dollars connected to and the federal government
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you know it it's sorta like the drug dealer that goes to the junior high and
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hawked by saying just try it once the federal government does that to the
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states with dollars in there so many strings attached let's talk about the
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discussion yeah you know after knowing what you know now would you have
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authorized the invasion
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he answered a different question than the one that I asked now he's come out
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I guy didn't you know I miss heard absolutely just ask you the question
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not knowing what we know now would you have authorized the invasion of Iraq
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ago of course not I i mean the entire predicate
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up the war against iraq was the intelligence that show they had weapons
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of mass destruction and that there was a real risk they might use them
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now I would know there was a bipartisan consensus both Republicans and Democrats
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looking at that intelligence
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concluded it was a real I we now know that intelligence was false
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and and with out that predicate there's no way we would have gone to
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to go to war with Iraq and and and we know that now in hindsight
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and and I know I mean do you defend the decision to go in by president bush
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at the time given the information was given well listen at the time I wasn't
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serving in the Senate so I didn't see the classified briefings I didn't see
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the in the intelligence and and so I don't want to second-guess
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based on on one at what I lack I have complete information that before you
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said that before they don't you want to do
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a hypothetical on because you can see the Intel but let me ask you this year
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governor bush is something of a and I thought would be
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controversial specifically he said nation-building is a good sentiment I
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was asking whether he
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subscribe to his brother foreign policy at the Bush Doctrine in he said Jeb Bush
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nation-building is a good sentiment exporting our values
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is a good sentiment but the core by foreign policies that will be peace and
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you have said something very different about what you call it the cruise
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what what is the difference well to be fair I don't claim to have any doctrines
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and and and certainly don't hope too
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up but yeah Laden I think foreign policy
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ought to be dictated by the vital national security interest of the United
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if and when military action is required number one we should be reluctant to use
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military power the america always has been
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you how it's worth noting the biggest country reagan ever invaded
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was Grenada but Giffin when we're required to use military force
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it should be with a clearly defined objective it should be with overwhelming
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and then we should get the heck out it is not the job our soldiers and sailors
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and airmen and Marines
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to transform foreign nations at the democratic utopias
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it is a job to hunt down and kill terrorists
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who want to murder americans before they can carry out jihad
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I want to ask you I'm you got hit by BuzzFeed recently in washington Post
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general and pick it up she's not a liberal for your attendance at committee
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in the US senate saying that a you have you've missed it too
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and suggesting that this has been a dereliction by you
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because the year not doing that bitch Jennifer Rubin wrote there's clear comes
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a point at which the taxpayers are not getting their money's worth because you
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roll call votes this here want to give you a chance to respond
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well look at the it's not a surprise at the washington post is criticizing me
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that's not the first time a little bit promise you it won't be the last
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%uh well what not what is the simple reality
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is anyone who is running for president you have to be out
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campaigning in Iowa New Hampshire South Carolina get me listening to the people
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you gotta be meeting the people
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hearing their questions that's the way our system works it's a great system
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that takes time if you look at it every senator who's ever run for president
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consistently they end up having to miss
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a lot a committee meetings a lot about because to do the job
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responsibly running for president you need to look voters in the eyes and
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answer their questions
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and and and there's my last question do dinner at a time speaking i'm looking
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people me as an answer questions
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there was a big dust-up between you and Mark helping this week
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he ask you some ridiculous questions about your Cuban Heritage Inn whether
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you would speak in Spanish and
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and basically it seemed to many like you trying to test
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your Cuban Heritage and then he came out apologize because there was a dust-up
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and in what some now are calling your finest moment
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you were quick to come to his defense and
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really took the class seam route want to give it a chance to
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tell the audience what you said in response to what could have been an
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opportunity for you to
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stop on the neck up a journalist who was in some trouble well thank you may I I
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thought it was much ado about nothing and I mention Mark Halperin his
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is a a serious and fair-minded journalist and he he took some grief for
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some silly questions that he asked me and any offered an apology and I said it
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it wasn't needed because I i offense wasn't taken I don't think it was
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but it but I certainly appreciate the apology and I am
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proud of my Cuban Heritage at proud of my father's journey from oppression to
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freedom I'm proud of my
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fresh Italian heritage a and I'll tell you make any if you care sometime
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Heidi and I'll have you over to the house I let my dad fix some big in a
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land and given planning it you can test the food we put on the climate etzioni
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you tell you that there are even there she said it occurs it's great to be here
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