WALTER WILLIAMS AND THOMAS SOWELL - PROGRESSIVE RACISM

WALTER WILLIAMS AND THOMAS SOWELL - DISCUSS RACISM AND THOSE PROMOTING IT

 

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when %uh

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the welcome

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fold

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relations and we have a doctor thomas also on the phone with us

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from at Stanford and he's at the at the Hoover Institution in San freeze the

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rose and and not on friedman the

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a fellow are you firm up put out an expanded version I've your observer

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excellent book intellectuals and society and we talk sometime back about the

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intellectual society what was the expanded part

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I headed for new chapters ARCA a whole section title intellectuals in race

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mmm I and my assistant but urged me to publish that as a separate book which in

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retrospect

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a wish I'd done but yet I I wanted this

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book to really come with amazing areas are var controversy

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a in the white one political and so I put this in the book

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and I'm my I advance various species and the staffers

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that I've not advance before that I haven't seen anywhere else

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of Brazil I'll long discussion on the whole question of disparities between

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groups well-groomed guided barry's as long as they've been group

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that's right and the disparities they don't necessarily mean that there's an

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economy injustice or discrimination

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the other thing is is that that within and the first to these chapters on

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a intellectual race is about the role of

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intellectuals in promoting racism I mean the intellectuals they are ready to cry

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racism that the driver had

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but if you go back a hundred years ago on it. 12 resemble

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you will find that nobody was pushing are the idea this

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some races were cable will only be you was a wooden drawers a war

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like the intellectual I mean chain helped found the

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eugenic society Cambridge Union and Woodrow Wilson

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all Woodrow Wilson yes oh my gosh yes from

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Woodrow Wilson was showing the movie birth to a nation which glorifies the Ku

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Klux Klan

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in the white house numerous leaders that he called in to view it with him

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hand these and n here Woodrow Wilson and then people are around the time they

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were called progressives one thing

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this was one of the hallmarks of progress through the people to

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understand that

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that for the progressives were pushing the idea

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that valley with their inferior races they went beyond blacks a

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Native Americans where they were apparently included the

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the Jew they include the Italian are regular people who are these to southern

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Europe in general

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and it was they who push for are

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laws outlawing intermarriage and restrictions on

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immigration based upon a the race for the people coming and it fell on

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so it's ironic because of course by the last decades of the 20th century

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intellectuals while the other side and work in both ears

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they did not take any criticism seriously they they dismissed all

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attempts to say that there are other things to consider

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hmm I the so that blog which is a move they are both times even though they

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were saying the opposite things in one period

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but there were lots a very people who are respect respectable

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any the number of international scholarly organization these

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these were not the village sorry if these are not a buzzer ringer

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rednecks these were people with PHD's the leading universities in the country

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and who to a professor that the leading universities in the country

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pet something interesting that you said in in in your book that the

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the term progressives fell out of favor

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and the people who work all progressives who were calling

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results are progressive soon call themselves liberals

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just like bankruptcy I you when you buildup of a whole record

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as looking bare are then you simply change your name in a stable Ramirez

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it was wet with I believe FDR was the first one to start calling themselves

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liberal her husband bought on the progress is

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party the progressive Woodrow Wilson administration

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that's right and and then then actually and liberals are at low but later on

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started the

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falling out a favor and now their back to progressives

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for the same reason thought-out liberal had disgraced themselves

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it produced so many disasters program are they now started a

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call themselves progressives and they started the man I'll anyone who cook

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will call them liberal say we shouldn't have label

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I well a label though very wonderful as light as we're both

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is like brand names with commodities know that the those brand names force

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you to live with the consequences what you do on the math

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your and it turns out that black americans have suffered the most says

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as a group for some these have big ideas above the progressives

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oh absolutely and that I would include in that the the great society under

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lyndon johnson

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when I think about it that the black family survive through centuries of

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slavery

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generations of Jim Crow and then began to fall apart

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under the liberal welfare state there's metre and and what people don't know the

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statistics

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you pointed out upon him out and I pointed out in my in my book race in

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economics that in the eighteen hundreds

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eighteen eighties that 75 percent black kids live in two-parent families where

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you

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it's hard put to fine 30 percent now and in and in places like that this a

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herbert goat man I believe oh yes there any plans at in Harlem in 1925

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eighty-five percent a black kids live in two-parent families and he also said

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that it was rare very rare to see

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a black single woman a teenager a younger woman

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raising a child buyers of I'd rather month period most of the

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black female headed households were headed by widows

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who were older than teenagers im yep I think one who wanted the wanted the

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rather tragic things for you

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for young people whether they're black or white but particularly for black

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youngsters

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is the is the teaching love uva victimhood

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and all god yes and and that that their victims and then they can't do anything

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about it no matter how hard they try

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and income thing back what have back in the forties

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in the thirties if young blacks are taught that same lesson back then well

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hell miss some rights

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movement would have never started that's right

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a because there were far more restrictions on black

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than today but I I never had a sense

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love utility I i remember giving a talk at Marquette University

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and from like young man and I Wnt that I know I'm about to

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graduate from our cat but what what what hope is there for me

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no and I said you note twice the hope with the worst for your parents

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and four times the hope that was your grandparents

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you know but the grievances and navel-gazing

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and all kinds of unfortunately all apply for the biggest

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a victims with United States the very same thing goes on in England among

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white

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yes people who haven't read that the road all rubles book

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live at the bottom you can say is that you know there are teenagers from the

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housing project near where he works as a doctor

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come to see him any by the you know they can multiply six times nine

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a now and I wrote about those might this week's column but we don't want no

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education y'all

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yes yes and you realize that this is a race the people that produce

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ludmilla safe be resolved was and now they're trying out a whole generation

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they can't do simple arithmetic and have no conserves the reading or even

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spelling

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no and so it so it's not a racial thing it's the underclass I know what has been

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done by the education establishment

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and the welfare state absolutely senator and the two things go together there is

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in order to have the welfare state

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you have to promote a welfare state ideology that would justify it

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in in a democracy and so therefore you get all these people for you make it do

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anything

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and what's the point in learning because for the first to move against you any

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now

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as the deadly I ideology you're absolutely right

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