Ted Cruz takes lead in a National Poll - Interview by Mike Gallagher
Donald Trump Falls Behind Ted Cruz in National NBC/Wall Street Journal Poll
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presidential candidate USC senator Ted Cruz senator crews do you notice that
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every time you're on my show it's right after you've received some good news I
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don't know this is an omen or not but this new brand new NBC News-Wall Street
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Journal poll for the first time here up 28 to 26 percentage points
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over Mr. Trump I i don't know this is becoming a pattern here you got good
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Gallagher shows Mike I think that's right maybe it's the biggest cause and effect
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with higher the more I think well congratulations you know of course it's
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frustrating to me to hear people say well is the stolen outlier I love people
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outlier they don't say that got any other pulled it comes out you know
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showing different numbers this has got to be a a real momentum builder for a
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can't attend crews campaign that already has a great deal of momentum well as the
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first national poll in many many months is shown anyone other than Donald Trump
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at first light and I think this is the continuation of what has been building
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for a long long time
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you know you remember before I would be weeks ago all the pundits all pollster
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said we could not win we didn't have a chance to get a min and then election
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night we saw record-shattering historic turn not only did we win but we also won
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with a broad coalition the old Reagan coalition so we want conservatives we
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want evangelicals but we also won Reagan democrats and we won young people ended
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up earning more votes than any republican candidate just really I will
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call and and that's really that's very much the same trajectory that is
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continuing in this poll that we're seeing here on the ground in South
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Carolina the cross country and I think the reason is people understand the
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stakes of this election could not be higher and they don't want to gamble in
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a little roll the dice and then nominate someone you don't know what he's done it
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did you don't know where to stand you know who will listen to I think the
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voters launched a consistent conservative someone has been the same
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yesterday today and tomorrow with me you know what you're gonna get
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spent my entire life as the conservative a social conservative fiscal
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conservative a national security concern that most spent my whole life-fighting
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to defend the Constitution and Bill of Rights and I think that's why we're see
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the old Reagan coalition forming and uniting around our campaign
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you mentioned evangelical Christians of course very important vote in South
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Carolina and around the country in past elections many evangelicals stayed home
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I heard a lot of reporters asked me and I did an interview this morning with the
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BBC and with NPR and people are saying it as because they they know I know
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South Carolina well and there are there's a huge faith-based component to
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the voters of South Carolina and the reporters Shane how is a guy like Trump
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enjoy the kind of support he seems to be getting from evangelical Christians
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isn't a Ted Cruz or even a Marco Rubio a better fit for evangelical Christians
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and frankly, senator your faith is an important part of your campaign you
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shared it with me personally and and and on the air with everybody who knows you
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notice your spiritual path why help understands the evangelical vote and as
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it applies not only to Ted Cruz but perhaps to donald Trump as well well
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look not sure having you know as you noted I I'ma Christian faith is an
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an integral part of who I am but and and we are working hard to campaign and early
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votes from everybody we've had tremendous support that we've got over
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350 pastors across that state of South Carolina that have signed up to support
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our campaign to encourage the congregation to go out the post turn
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around the pattern you observe of so many questions not not showing up in
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voting in 2012 5454 million evangelical Christians did not vote more than half
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of us didn't vote in the 2012 election and if we do that again will lose this
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country and said a lot of an interview that focused on energized in mobilizing
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inspiring people of faith and Donald Trump it is supported my hard thick
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people checked off at Washington they're furious I and i understand exactly why
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Washington has betrayed us both democrats and career politicians on the
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republican side of betrayed us and and Trump has a lot of noise a lot of ball
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you a lot of hot rhetoric and I understand that people are mad at
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Washington naturally attract but I think what we're seeing like is that his
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voters get closer to election they start studying the candidates more closely
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they start looking at their records because if you want someone who says
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they will stand up to Washington the natural question is when did you ever
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stood up to Washington and you know that that is you know if you listen to what
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Donald actually sing Donald saying he'll go to Washington be deal-maker help cut
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deals with with with democrats and he will compromise and and and it's what's
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the reason jimmy carter recently endorsed Arnold formal he was really a
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striking moment by Jimmy Carter was over in England at the house alone and they
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asked about the election, he said you know between Donald Trump and Ted Cruz I
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would pick up truck shop assistant US Attorney carter speaking he said the
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reason is both is malleable he has no fixed set of beliefs we can work with
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him we can get in to do what we want he said Krugman's is not Malley he knows
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what he believed that he will fight for you know what I'll say something that
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I've never said any other context I agree with jimmy carter the end but
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that's why we're saying conservatives they studied together behind us because
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I don't think the voters want someone to cut more deals with Barack Obama and
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Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi to grow the death take away our liberties to weaken
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America I think they wanted strong principled consistent concert
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this campaign to take on the the rhetorical level it's taken you know you
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ran a campaign at I believe that showed a video of of mr. Trump in his own words
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and then he's apparently threatening to sue you over that and some of the
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scratch our heads and how do you how do you sue over something that is a public
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record of somewhat somebody said there's the accusation your lying and and and
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even Marco Rubio has gotten involved in their sort of has that surprised you
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shouted across a lot I always think it's unfortunate when candidates make the
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decision to go into the gun and engage in personal attacks as you know my
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opinion and I have been talking a long long time on my approach from day one in
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this campaign has been that if others engage in personal attacks brothers
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engagement insults I'm not gonna respond in town I haven't you ever heard may go
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on air and start launching personal attack the dulcimer Marco Rubio anybody
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else right now I do think policy is fair game focusing on differences among
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record focusing on differences about vision and experience that that's what
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the voters South Carolina initially deserve and expect and the Washington
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post senator rights today that you've got you cannot afford a third-place
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finish in South Carolina your short a neck-and-neck in the polls
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Marco Rubio I always loved these pronouncements from the media about what
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you doin candidates can or can't afford but but can you talk about how important
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it is to do well here in South Carolina and do you expected it would you expect
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to finish in the Washington post has been writing stories in the New York
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Times in the mainstream media for every election that you know it doesn't do act
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his campaign is over they make writing obituaries on this damn paper but David
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launched the day we launched the New York Times said Ted cannot win because
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the Washington elites to spice it up at the post edit nonsense I hope and
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believe will do well here regardless we have a national campaigning deep base of
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support and you want to see the breadth of the support not only did we win Iowa
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vote total anti-republican ever in the history of the aisle but there's just a
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week later we finished a strong third place in New Hampshire a much more
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moderate New England state that everyone said a conservative could not compete to
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be competitive that breadth of support I hope and believe will do well in South
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Carolina but we have a national campaign and I will play it like the reason why I
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think our campaign is surging want conservatives are uniting behind us you
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know you look at the Saturday today I think there really two issues that are
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front and center on the voters' minds one with the passing of Justice Scalia
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Justice Scalia was a lion of the law he was someone I knew personally for twenty
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years an extraordinary conservative and the court now hangs in the balance this
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is not one branch of government is to that are at stake are basic
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constitutional rights we are one justice away from losing the second amendment
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like to keep and bear arms where one justice away from losing on religious
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liberty and I think the voters are looking at the individuals on that stage
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and asking who I know beyond a shadow of a doubt will nominate flight confirmed
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principled conservative jurists it we've been burned too many times with that too
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many republicans who don't care about the court don't fight about the court
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and put liberals on the court agreed and you've done a really done a magnificent
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job in conveying the needy the urgency of the of this of the Supreme Court and
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you know and yet I pick up the papers in rio online today here's a president a
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commander-in-chief who plans to go to Cuba but he wanted he doesn't plan to
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attend justice Antonin Scalia's funeral Saturday which is is just stunning to me you know
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sadly it is par for the course it is I don't know that there's anything
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President Obama can do at this point that surprises going to Cuba I think was
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always in its plan if you look at its foreign policy nationally
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daily indicated in the band and our friends and allies you know one of the
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first things he did when he became president with send the bust of Winston
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Churchill back the United States
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Brian president Winston Churchill and come back to the overall good but but
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but if you look at charles lives in Rhode over Real Clear Politics
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his his decision his refusal to attend justice Scalia funeral does more than
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just insult the memory of Scalia to failure to perform a basic presidential
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duties of course is that Justice Scalia three decades on the court grants or
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visit the direction of American law at the Ronald Reagan was to the presidency
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so Justice Scalia was to the supreme court but you know what we saw something
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like this a couple of years ago what President Obama refused to attend market
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factors for you right now Margaret Thatcher you want to talk about
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historical figure that stood with America that along with Ronald Reagan
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and Pope John Paul with his little in winning the cold war to the Soviet Union
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the American president not to bother to a pair was justice crates and hence 07
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I'm not surprising that the Justice Scalia 0 because he President Obama and
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for that matter Hillary Clinton in in Bernie Sanders they've looked down on
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you and me and just a silly and conserve
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essentially the ignorant map or in flyover country right now Obama summed
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it up in his unguarded moment back in the 2008 election where he described all
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about us as bitter and angry and clinging to our God and are done and you
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know what I'm not bitter but we are angry and he can't have either hard or
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go senator Ted Cruz got a big tonight I know in Greenville through I'm sure
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we'll see you there at the Bon Secour wellness arena Mark Levine's group the
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conservative review hosting a conservative convention and a whole
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bunch of great people including my dear friend Sean Hannity
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people in the upstate of South Carolina all throughout the region can go to
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conservative review dot com for tickets and senator crews I hope you know how
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grateful I always am to you for taking the time you always answer the call in
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join us on the show and it means a lot to our listeners in
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to me and not we wish you nothing but the best this week in South Carolina and
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we're gonna see you on the campaign trail
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well Mike thank you for everything you do thank you for being a voice for
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freedom and he want to see a South Carolina go with it proves that orkut
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crews out or where barnstorming the state and conservative come both on
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Saturday conservatives stand together we're gonna have a very good thing
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safe travels all the best senator cruise thanks again for joining us God bless
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