Why did the DNC apparatus sue to keep RFK JR’s name off certain state ballots and simultaneously sue to keep him on certain state ballots?

The RFK Jr Impact on Ballots

October 18, 2024 | Sundance | 78 Comments

There is a lot going on behind the scenes in the final weeks. Most political observers are now keenly aware of the difference between “ballots” and “votes” as they pertain to key counties: Fulton County, Georgia; Wayne County, Michigan; Philadelphia and Allegany counties, Pennsylvania; Clark County, Nevada; Milwaukee and Marquette counties, Wisconsin, and Maricopa County, Arizona.

These are the specific counties and cities (Philadelphia, Atlanta, Milwaukee, Detroit) where the process of mass-mail/distribution of ballots, in combination with the assembly/harvesting therein, meets the process of “ballot scanning” at county level tabulation centers. However, there’s another facet, “ballot making.”

Many people, including Robert F Kennedy Jr himself and his legal team in court filings, have presented the 2024 situation and asked a question. Essentially:

It just didn’t make sense….

… Until now.

County-level ballots were contracted for localized printing by those who intended to use blank ballots for fraudulent purposes; essentially “ballot making.”

RFK Jr’s name ON or OFF ballots, changes the dynamic of the paper format and the physical alignment in the scanner.

The county tabulation scanners need one ballot format per county to scan for vote tally.

In states where they preprinted/made the fraudulent county level ballots *without* RFK Jr’s name, the DNC sued to keep him off.

In states where they preprinted/made the fraudulent county level ballots *with* RFK Jr’s name, the DNC sued to keep him on.

That’s the answer.

That also helps put context on how long this localized mass ballot printing and tabulation plan has been in place. WATCH:

The key location for 2024 ballot fraud detection…. are the tabulation centers!

Posted in 1st Amendment, Big Government, Big Stupid Government, Donald Trump, Election 2024, President Trump, RNC, True The Vote, Uncategorized, Voter Fraud

78 COMMENTS

Greg1

October 18, 2024 8:13 am

The utter corruption NEVER.ENDS.

When will these people ever be held accountable before Judgement Day?

They are going to go all in for the steal……..again.

May God thwart their plans.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Greg1

Bobo

October 18, 2024 9:25 am

Reply to Greg1

We knew Mexico had/has very honest elections in comparison to USA!

Viva Mexico!!

Gracias Dios!!

CUT THE CORD

george 1

October 18, 2024 9:57 am

Reply to Bobo

At this point the political corruption in America dwarfs most countries.

Viceroygrey

October 18, 2024 8:16 am

I know it is dark 30 but edit the headline. JFK Jr is passed.

I think it is supposed to be RFK jr. No?

Oldersoul

October 18, 2024 8:17 am

An aside on the intense battle underway right now in PA in particular. The Elon Musk impact on ballots.

Right now, Elon Musk’s PAC is running an incredible registration operation in PA. Literally throwing potentially hundreds of millions of dollars at people in PA to encourage registrations … $100 to anyone registered to vote in PA who supports the 1A and 2A.

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1847115389676740899

https://twitter.com/elonmusk/status/1847116160036118845

https://petition.theamericapac.org/

https://theamericapac.org/

Elon Musk’s PAC offers $47 payouts to refer swing state voters to sign petition

https://www.nbcnews.com/tech/tech-news/musk-pac-signature-47-pay-refer-swing-state-voters-sign-petition-rcna174310

Oldersoul

October 18, 2024 8:23 am

Reply to Oldersoul

An amazing offer, but Elon hasn’t been listening to PDJT enough.

It’s a COMMONWEALTH.

Lol.

Daniel

October 18, 2024 9:08 am

Reply to Oldersoul

They don’t have “Commonwealth police”

Viceroygrey

October 18, 2024 8:17 am

Then again jfk Jr has probably voted a number of times in 2024.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Viceroygrey

flyoverdeplorable

October 18, 2024 8:21 am

Biden said the quiet part out loud: “We should solve our differences at the Ballot box!”

Slowcobra

October 18, 2024 8:22 am

Geez oh freakin’ pete.

what in the crap have we come to!

thank you dinesh! thank you sundance!

I’d like to know where my local tabulation center is (wayne county MI)…

Dutchman

October 18, 2024 8:23 am

Tabulation centers are one half, contractors like Runbeck, the other.

Black Knight

October 18, 2024 8:33 am

Reply to Dutchman

Don’t discount machine flipping as another component also.

Too much coming put about algorithms by Dominion, ES&S and others, along with centralized internet access by nefarious actors.

reed walker

October 18, 2024 9:13 am

Reply to Dutchman

^^^ agreed 100%. Shutting down Runbeck would make additional phantom ballots all but disappear in places where Runbeck is the “vendor” = No less than 22 states!

Runbeck prints ballots for parts of Arizona and 22 other states. They can churn out more than 1 million ballots every day at their facility in Phoenix. They are putting together everything a voter needs to have, including the envelope the ballot comes in. It is noteworthy to point out Runbeck manufactured and delivered the ballots for Fulton County, GA in 2020. The ones the “Ruby Freeman crime family” pulled out from under that makeshift desk in the tabulation center that we all saw video of.

Runbeck. Poised once again to commit systemic and national widespread fraud.

Black Knight

October 18, 2024 9:30 am

Reply to reed walker

And IIRC, the Senate runoff between Hershel and Warnock also.

sherirey

October 18, 2024 8:24 am

I don’t think JFK, Jr is an error…..don’t know what it means though.

OKI Dopey

October 18, 2024 8:25 am

JFK Jr?

Black Knight

October 18, 2024 8:25 am

Those who count the ballots! <<<<

Last edited 1 hour ago by Black Knight

Clay More

October 18, 2024 8:28 am

The descent decree of 1984 has been lifted, so now any parties (with standing) can sue the Secretaries of State in each of the battleground states of GA, Michigan, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, and Arizona immediately filling the election. Doing so will prevent those SoSs from certifying the elections.

Observing

October 18, 2024 8:30 am

So that’s why they did it… they would have had to reprint all their ballots!!! lmfao

MacPepper

October 18, 2024 8:45 am

Reply to Observing

Timeline:

July 15 – Vance officially the Rep VP candidate

July 22 – Kamala announces she is a candidate for President

August 2 – Kamala officially announced as Dem Presidential nominee

August 6 – Walz officially announced as VP candidate

August 23 – RFK Jr announced suspending Presidential campaign

So ballot making started sometime after August 6 and after counties adjusted their ballot masters to reflect the changes to Dem candidates. What did the evil geniuses overlook as they rushed to crank up ballot making??

Last edited 1 hour ago by MacPepper

Alex1689

October 18, 2024 9:57 am

Reply to MacPepper

Ports shut down?

deplorable

October 18, 2024 8:30 am

Get ready folks…

Expect to see 150+% voter turnout in key counties.

Expect to see switched votes.

Expect to see down ballot races favor Republicans while Trump gets fewer votes.

Expect to see 3AM ballot dumps of 100% “votes” for Harris.

Expect to see large numbers of Harris only ballots, no down ballot selections.

Expect to see precincts with 100% of the vote for Harris.

Expect the counting shutdowns.

It’s all coming…

CarpeTrachea

October 18, 2024 8:44 am

Reply to deplorable

If they do that under the cold glare of the early voting numbers we’ve been seeing, we’d end up back in 1861 in the blink of an eye.

47Yinzer

October 18, 2024 9:08 am

Reply to deplorable

And expect our useless Congress to certify the results without delay, without challenges, provided Clueless and Pedo the Commie are the “winners”.

Rocinante Traveler

October 18, 2024 9:22 am

Reply to 47Yinzer

Because Kamala certifies the electoral count as President of the Senate, get it now??

Clarion

October 18, 2024 8:33 am

This is why more questions need to be asked about how America (and the rest of the world) had a clear understanding of what kind of threat was posed by the covid 19 virus in March of 2020, yet went into lockdown within days.

It is also why the so-called emergency powers need to be revoked, yet no one ran on fixing this. They all abused these powers, at every level of government, in every party.

The covid-19 virus was released at that particular time in order to do something about President Trump, and it did, and since no one wants to get to the bottom of it, God only knows what they are going to do if we somehow make it past the steal.

Fionnagh

October 18, 2024 8:57 am

Reply to Clarion

A: There are millions of government-issued cell phones just waiting to ring all at one time, and all with the same text message. “Now.”

gz9gjg

October 18, 2024 9:10 am

Reply to Fionnagh

Hmmmm . . . government issued cell phones . . .

Texas midget

October 18, 2024 9:11 am

Reply to Fionnagh

What happens if they blow up?

Alex1689

October 18, 2024 10:01 am

Reply to Texas midget

^^^^^

Hokkoda

October 18, 2024 8:38 am

So the question now is how do we get inside the tabulation centers to disrupt the fraudulent ballots? Those places will be heavily guarded, and local judges will help local corrupt election officials keep prying eyes out…hmm…

gz9gjg

October 18, 2024 9:01 am

Reply to Hokkoda

Just enough fake ballots were manufactured and inserted into the count in 2020 to overcome Trump’s lead and to avoid detection. We have this on video in Detroit! This time, we know the fake ballots exist and we need to assure they can’t repeat the steal. We The People need to guard and surround the tabulation centers, and scanning centers like Runbeck, to assure NOTHING gets delivered to the tabulation centers after midnight of Election Day: no pizzas, and no Pallets of Ballots! Chain of Custody must be enforced!

Judith

October 18, 2024 9:27 am

Reply to gz9gjg

Carpenter nails might do the trick. Toss them into the parking lots after the polls close, and those box trucks loaded with fraudulent ballots ain’t going anywhere. /s

oldvet50

October 18, 2024 9:45 am

Reply to Judith

Roofing nails!

hokkoda

October 18, 2024 9:37 am

Reply to gz9gjg

This is something I pointed out several months ago: once the ballots are “behind the gates” it is very hard to stop. My thought back then was that they might need to have an off-site location (secretive) to conceal the printing operations. Stop them there or before they get to the tabulation centers. If the ballots are already behind the gates, that is much tougher. So you have to find a way to basically search the tabulation centers ahead of time and observers on-site need to have a way to ensure ballot chain-of-custody rules are followed. They have to know where the ballots left from, how they got there, and is it the same number of ballots when they arrive. (I’m guessing a bit because I don’t know the physical process involved.)

And importantly, nobody can go home and you need to have a lot of observers and body cameras and static cameras pointed at the people feeding the machines. It’s a tough problem. But if we suspect that they’re stuffing the ballot box with ballots printed on-site, then there needs to be a contingent of people at every site whose sole purpose is to ensure no extra ballots make their way into the tabulation area.

Sam

October 18, 2024 8:42 am

https://revolver.news/2024/10/democrats-already-stealing-cities-in-michigan/

Marcia

October 18, 2024 8:45 am

Retired Magistrate here: This election is in GOD’s hands; just like all elections are.

We voted early, have a large Trump sign up, signs in the front yard, Trump sticker on our car and donated to President Trump’s campaign. We pray for President Trump’s safety along with JD Vance and that President Trump be re elected. However, no matter how much cheating goes on, if GOD wants Donald J. Trump to be President again, he will be.

If that is not GOD’s will, then we will still live the best lives we can knowing that we are just pilgrims passing through on this earth and that our real home is in Heaven.

October 18, 2024 8:54 am

Reply to Marcia

Amen.

T. Turtle

October 18, 2024 8:54 am

Reply to Marcia

Thank you Marcia! I needed that.

History Repeating

October 18, 2024 8:56 am

Reply to Marcia

2 Big 2 Rig is part us and part God. I love this framework. All you can do is ALL you can do. No one sits this one out! God wins. Always.

October 18, 2024 9:23 am

Reply to Marcia

Amen. Exactly how I feel Marcis. My heart and gut has long felt PDJT will be elected.

Not that I know God’s will but witnessing His divine intervention saving President Trump’s life was for a purpose. My faith leads me to believe God is answering our millions of prayers.

JWoo

October 18, 2024 9:36 am

Reply to Marcia

Amen, Marcia. We all need this reminder. My ballot is in, and my prayers are constantly being lifted to God in Heaven.

Daniel 2:21 New International Version

21 He changes times and seasons;

he deposes kings and raises up others.

He gives wisdom to the wise

and knowledge to the discerning.

Romans 13:1 New International Version

Submission to Governing Authorities

13 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.

Revelation 19:16 New International Version

16 On his robe and on his thigh he has this name written: King of Kings and Lord of Lords.

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Parrothead

October 18, 2024 9:42 am

Reply to Marcia

So it was not God’s will that he win in 2020? It was God’s will that the Democrats successfully steal, through ballot harvesting and otherwise, the elections in 2018, 2020, 2022? God’s will is for US to do what is right and moral and just, and so far we’ve failed pretty miserably. No, it is not God’s will for evil to prevail. Sorry.

Pinogam

October 18, 2024 9:48 am

Reply to Marcia

Amen.

technerd

October 18, 2024 8:46 am

Democrats steal elections from their own voters… why wouldn’t they view every voter the same.

OneGuy

October 18, 2024 8:50 am

They will do it again and they will get away with it.

Humphrey

October 18, 2024 8:51 am

To get average people to do this they have to make our president a pariah. And that’s why the over the top rhetoric by almost every government agency and media.

October 18, 2024 8:51 am

This “election” is on track to have 5 gazillion ballots and the highest participation ever, ever, ever.

Last edited 1 hour ago by js

Fionnagh

October 18, 2024 8:54 am

Reply to js

Guarantee that some areas will have 105% of registered voters voting. Here’s looking at my hometown, Philadelphia.

dd_sc

October 18, 2024 9:14 am

Reply to Fionnagh

With 99% going to one candidate.

47Yinzer

October 18, 2024 9:18 am

Reply to Fionnagh

Only 105%? You are an optimist.

Texas midget

October 18, 2024 9:19 am

Reply to Fionnagh

That is not anything new.

In 2012 cities like Cleveland, Cincinatti, Detroit, Milwaukie, Philadelphia and others had %140 to %150 vote.

Nate Silver thought it was grand that Obama got his people to turn out and nobody ever questioned it.

Fionnagh

October 18, 2024 8:52 am

I realize most assume WA’s 12 electoral votes will go to Harris, but … RFK Jr. is still on our ballot. Along with 10 other pairs of candidates. Will be interesting to see how many votes RFK Jr. gets in this state.

Hokkoda

October 18, 2024 9:00 am

Reply to Fionnagh

They have a huge problem with all the new wars, and rightly so. I saw a Trump ad yesterday quoting Harris saying she would do nothing different than Biden. It then cuts to war footage.

That’s the ad you run in blue areas, or something like that. Just have Trump do a voiceover of war footage – particularly in Gaza – and simply have him say, “For 4 years we had peace. In the 4 years that followed, Harris-Biden got us into 3 new wars and is gunning for wars in Iran and China by 2027. I thought Democrats were anti-war?”

Then play that clip of Harris saying she wouldn’t do anything different and ask, “Just how many more wars do these people have planned for us? And are your kids safe from that?”

They’ll never vote for Trump, but they sure as heck can stay home or vote for Jill Stein.

October 18, 2024 8:55 am

We’ve identified the RFK jr angle, how do we rectify or thwart their obvious cheat in these counties?

Paul Niemi

October 18, 2024 8:56 am

Here is a suggestion to beat the cheat. Sue the counties to report only the final vote totals that will be certified. There should be no running tally reported in real time. That way the cheaters could not know how many fake ballots to stuff. The practice of continuously updating the vote totals on election night probably is an accommodation to satisfy the press, not a requirement of the job the counters do.

Ish Kabibble

October 18, 2024 8:59 am

You’ve made complete sense out of it, SD.

I get it now, the candidate selections had to match up with the pre-printed cheat ballots so not to arouse any suspicions and it looks “normal”.

Excellent post!!

Citizen of the Former Republic

October 18, 2024 9:00 am

So only very small number of days to iive in the Republic, in its last days, as it slightly resembles the country we grew up in.

Then a long, cold winter as further and permanent tyranny rolls out.

Last edited 1 hour ago by Citizen of the Former Republic

Slowcobra

October 18, 2024 9:48 am

Reply to Citizen of the Former Republic

Yep, and it’s what keeps me up at night.

Monticello

October 18, 2024 9:03 am

Wanna bet that tabulation centers will still end up with RFK Jr on ballots which are not supposed to have his name and not on ballots when he is supposed to be on the ballot?

Criminal miscarriage of representation

Mr T

October 18, 2024 9:06 am

I had always assumed that the Left sued to keep RFK off of the ballot when they thought he’d cut into the Democrat results but then sued to keep him on the ballot after the Trump endorsement to get low info voters to take a couple of points from Trump.

In Michigan, my state, it was the latter. I mentioned to my precinct manager that it is interesting the Democrats always talk about “voter suppression” but have no problem with people voting for someone who has cleary stated he is not a candidate.

I don’t understand SD’s point here–So is the point that all of the fraudulent ballots were already created and filled out and having RFK not there would mean not being able to use them? There is still enough time to fix that problem for the Marxist left.

Hokkoda

October 18, 2024 9:07 am

Seems like maybe there’s a role here for elected county sheriffs to search the premises…

You have to get around the FBI and DOJ and send in law enforcement that is independent of those corrupt agencies.

I guess my question is where are the tabulation centers? Those have to be public knowledge.

Also, are the ballots at the polling centers sent to the tabulation centers? Because if you have observers at the polling stations who know how many ballots left the polling center, and add them up, additional votes scanned at the tabulation centers would be easier to spot. 100,000 votes cast, 130,000 votes “tabulated”.

And observers at tabulation centers have to be very

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